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Jeanai Chassagne, Gary Stevens and Kim Young Williams have been friends for many years, and have open, frank discussions. Their new show allows you to overhear them. | Submitted

Conversations Overheard gives voice to the frank, timely voices of adults over 50: 'To help more people on a larger platform'

Kim Young Williams, Jeanai Chassagne and Gary Heflin plan to have a series of conversations, and they are OK if you want to overhear them.

In fact, they hope you do.

Chassagne, Williams and Heflin, all Chicago natives, are launching a show called “Conversations Overheard,” which will be a series of frank, timely discussions for adults over the age of 50. They will record the shows and share them on social media, with hopes of finding a spot on a major platform at some point.

Because they think they have something important to share, something a lot of people their age will want to hear.

“We have a variety of topics and a lot of it is, for lack of a better word, it's topical,” Heflin said. “Things related to dating, things related to people in our lives and this stage of our life cycle and so on

They started recording the first show on Dec. 22 and are preparing to release it on social media. Each episode will be around 10 to 12 minutes and will usually be released on Friday evenings around 7 p.m. While the first shows will be recorded, they plan to go live at some point.

Chassagne is 52, Williams is 56 and Heflin is 57. They have been friends for many years and Chassagne and Williams are cousins. All three consider themselves family.

Chassagne has operated her own personal training and fitness company, Body by Jeanai, for 23 years. Williams is a flight attendant with a major American airline. Heflin is a solar consultant and chef.

“Each of us is in a profession that helps people,” Williams said. “Jeanai is a physical trainer and she helps people physically get themselves together. Gary is a chef who cooks in deliciously healthy foods. So if you ever need something that needs to be catered, you should consider Gary. And I'm a flight attendant, and my job is to keep people safe, my job is to help. I'm also a beauty, health and wellness fitness influencer on social media. And so we help people.

“This is a platform for us to reach out and help masses. You know, we're not kids. Clearly, we didn't grow up with social media,” she said. “But this is three adults coming together to reach out and touch, to help more people on a larger platform.”

Chassagne said the three cohosts have a natural rapport that will come through on the show.

“I personally feel like it's a great opportunity for our listeners, our audience, to be able to get some insight, several different perspectives, because you have two women and one man,” she said. “And really an opportunity to peel back the layers as it relates to what's going on in your life currently, in chapter two, in the 50s. And that can be a myriad of things. That can be physical health, mental health, emotional health, dating, absolutely menopause. The libido changes. It can be self-esteem, self-love, just improving yourself to be your very best self. So I think that is an opportunity for people to come together, listen, learn and at the same time be entertained.”

Heflin said sometimes, the show will be “provocative,” but not just to draw an audience. There are some issues that need honest, open dialogue.

“These are things that a lot of people are not talking about,” he said. “So, I mean, we want to kind of fill that space and make people think, make people look at and be sort of that olive branch, if you will, that just kind of opens up so people can start to have those conversations as well as listen to ours.”

Williams said the show is targeted at people who are adjusting to change.

“And certainly our lives look different than when we were in our 20s and 30s,” she said. “The things that we think about, the red flags in relationships, our physical health, our bodies are changing and people have questions. I know that there are physicians out there who cater to people who are our age. But there are things going on with our bodies and our minds that we have questions and people need to know that they're not alone. So we’re going to have these conversations and this is their opportunity to overhear them.”

Williams said the show came from a very real place and situation.

“So how this show was born, at that time, I was in a dark place in my life,” she said. “Had gone through a bad breakup and Jeanai and I had some really great conversations. Initially, it was about dating and relationships and love and heartbreak. But then it turned to health. I just thought, you know, these conversations are so good, people would benefit from hearing this.

“And then we pulled in Gary because we thought, who better to tell us what a man is thinking than a man? So we all have different backgrounds,” Williams said. “I am a woman who was married 28 years, who has two children and went through a divorce and reentering the dating life. Gary is a man who’s never had children, has never been married. Jeanai is also a mom who has adult children. So, you know, we have different perspectives.

“So it's not us offering medical advice or professional advice. It is just conversations that people can say, ‘You know what, I can relate to her. She sounds like me.’ Or ‘She sounds like me,’ or ‘I can identify with him. Yeah, that's what I was thinking,’” she said. “So it's an opportunity for people to feel like they're watching us sit on the sofa or wherever we are. And they are included in the conversation virtually.”

They hope people are moved by the conversations they will overhear.

“As we are really expecting for people to have reactions, an emotional reaction, a visceral reaction, and the insight from all of our perspectives, which will vary, I'm sure, on topic to topic,” Chassagne said.

Heflin said he will utilize his own life experiences on the show.

“The thing that I don't want to become, quote-unquote, the spokesman for men, per se. I want to give my perspective as a man and I want to be a representative of men,” he said. “I'm unique in that I have three sisters and a mother. So, a lot of my socialization comes from women. So dealing with that, I had to learn how to communicate and deal with them on the levels that they were trying to communicate with.

“Women are very adept at making you communicate on their level. So, I want to encourage more men to do that because it's more meaningful. I mean, women by and large are communicators. And if you are able to be open and to actually receive it and to give good communication, I mean, there's no limit to where your relationships can go.”

Heflin said he thinks men become more guarded as they grow older.

“I think that we become more comfortable in terms of who we are. And in doing that, we go through different things that cause us to take on different communication patterns,” he said. “And my guess is that those communication partners are a lot more guarded as we get older.”

Chassagne looks forward to informing and inspiring people.

“But here's the opportunity. Time for the conversation to start about the importance of communication. I don't believe that you can't teach an old dog a new trick,” she said. “So I really feel like there's a lot of insight here. Again, these perspectives that open up Pandora's box and you deal with it, you deal with it, and you can become better for it.”

Some episodes of “Conversations Overheard” will include guests, including mental health professionals or physicians or people who have a story to share.

The three friends hope to reach a large audience through social media, and then want to progress from there.

“Absolutely. There's absolutely no limit to where we want to take this,” Williams said. “We’d like to obviously get so big that we are on Pandora, that we are on Spotify, those major broadcasting podcast venues, and we would like to take this show on the road.

“Well, I mean, we live in Chicago, our base is Chicago. But I mean, we've lived half the life that we're going to live,” she said. “ We're over 50. So we know people in different states and cities and different metropolitan areas. And it is our goal to branch out to every avenue, every city. We would like to be syndicated.”

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